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Tibbets Mtn,WA
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Submitted by Stefan Mitrovich
2008-05-16 10:48:32
GFS Top of Usable Lift 05/15/2008 21 (UTC)
Based on an hour flight at midday: There was an inversion around 6000ft. No wind and climb rates of 1000fpm.
It was fairly smooth in between thermals, most likely due to the lack of wind, but the pressure was high.
The model appeared somewhat accurate for the day albeit a little bit high for top of usable lift, it was about 1000ft lower in reality.
cloudbase
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Submitted by Mark Dowsett
2008-05-14 11:53:07
GFS Cumulus Cloud Base Height 05/13/2008 21 (UTC)
base was 6500' which was attainable. Quite a ways off from predicted
winds
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Submitted by Mark Dowsett
2008-05-14 11:52:12
GFS 05/13/2008 21 (UTC)
fairly accurate
lift
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Submitted by Mark Dowsett
2008-05-14 11:51:25
GFS Thermal Updraft Velocity 05/13/2008 21 (UTC)
actual lift was 700fpm at times. most climbs were averaging around 400fpm...still a bit higher than you predicted
6400' msl
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Submitted by Mark Dowsett
2008-05-14 11:49:17
GFS Top of Usable Lift 05/13/2008 21 (UTC)
considerably more than the 4-5000 predicted
Test: Top Usable where S > S_AVG
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2008-05-05 20:27:50
GFS Top of Usable Lift 05/05/2008 12 (UTC)
test
Heat Flux Test as S>S_AVG
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2008-05-05 20:22:52
GFS Surface Heat Flux 05/05/2008 12 (UTC)
from 06z 6 hour forecast
King Mountain Spring Epic
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Submitted by dave hanning
2008-05-05 14:37:22
GFS Top of Usable Lift 05/04/2008 21 (UTC)
King Mountain Launch at 12:30 altitude, wind speeds, location of lift, cloud cover, everything was extremely accurate. It made forecasting when to roll to king for the weekend knowable, before we were guessing. Thank You!!

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RUC hit and miss
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Submitted by Scott Harding
2008-03-29 22:21:30
RUC Top of Usable Lift 03/29/2008 21 (UTC)
Top of usable lift was actually 4000-4300 ft. ASL. RUC model overdid usable lift and missed the strength of the winds aloft. Winds were stronger than RUC forecast by about 5-10mph overall under 4500 ft. ASL yet, interestingly, were correct for the launch.
Wind Speed and direction little missplaced
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by daniel velez
2008-01-21 13:47:56
GFS Elevation 01/21/2008 21 (UTC)
As I plotted the wind speed at 1800 mts, it should have shown the arrows just on the valleys. Instead itīs a little missplaced to the south-east. It looks promissing but a little off on the layer.
bta
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Submitted by [Anonymous]
2008-01-06 17:08:42
GFS Top of Usable Lift 01/06/2008 15 (UTC)
bad conditions due to the strong winds
anning
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Submitted by mike fougere
2007-11-10 00:39:35
GFS Cumulus Cloud Base Height 11/10/2007 06 (UTC)
Winds at altitude, thermal core strenght and cloudbase accurate.
Flew Mount Olympus - Top of lift accurate
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-10-31 21:42:34
GFS Top of Usable Lift 10/31/2007 21 (UTC)
Launched at precisely this forecast time. All 4 pilots found the top of the lift to be 8000 ft on the western slopes of the Wasatch mountains. CLoudbase was accurate as well at 9-10K. The forecast was for 10K only over the highest terrain. A "treat" to fly so late in the season, October 31. Postfrontal day. Tomorrow will bring high pressure and an impossible inversion back to the valley.
Kunming Yunnan China
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Submitted by mike fougere
2007-10-26 09:28:17
GFS Cumulus Cloud Base Height 10/28/2007 06 (UTC)
Wind speed , thermal height, cloudbase, was quite accurate.

Humidity and vegitation seems good too.





We just started flying after an unusual long monsoon season so I'LL KEEP POSTING.
First indications good accuracy
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Submitted by Mark Canvin
2007-10-13 18:00:00
GFS Sky Cloud Cover 10/13/2007 12 (UTC)
At a local level, your predictions for 50% cloud cover was exactly what happened today at this location, followed, as predicted by 100% cloud cover 3 hours later. Wind speed and direction was also accurate. Promising!
Draper to SLC, UT Flight
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-10-08 20:52:42
GFS Top of Usable Lift 10/07/2007 21 (UTC)
Launched South Draper, UT (hills near Point of Mountain) at 3pm (21 UTC). Weak lift but managed to slowly climb to cloudbase. The cloudbase of 9-10K ft was very accurate over Steep mountain, with base at 11K over Lone Peak. Top of lift was 8,500 over the valley, and 11,000 deeper in the Wasatch. Landed at 6pm. Thermal strengths validated well, with max climbs of only 300 fpm.
Experimental XC Potential is out to lunch
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-10-04 10:26:20
RUC 10/04/2007 21 (UTC)
Looks like the selection criteria indicates that the western desert in Northern Utah is a likely good location to XC today. It couldn't be more wrong. We are in a huge pre-frontal wind event. The wind barbs here are at 12K ft. The reason this shows as a good area is because the winds are forecasted to be light near the surface, and the top of usable lift is forcasted to be just 2000 feet above the ground, thereby missing the strong winds. We'll have to seriously look at this selection criteria as well as considering to the usefulness of such a parameter still.
GFS Top of Usable Lift validating poorly for Day 2 of the Canungra Cup 2007
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-10-01 11:11:02
GFS Top of Usable Lift 10/01/2007 03 (UTC)
The GFS model is forecasting the boundary layer depth and general surface heat flux on the weak side for experienced conditions. See Michael Dufty's flight and report to compare the 1PM time period. http://paraglidingforum.com/modules.php?name=leonardo&op=show_flight&flightID=11501

Wind barbs on map are at the top of usable lift.
Buoyancy/Shear ratio showing large convergence zone
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-30 12:02:59
RUC 09/29/2007 21 (UTC)
Note the winds at the top of usable lift. There is a huge convergence event at the edge of a large cold front. Although the buoyancy to shear ratio indicates an area where thermals are likely not too broken to use, this sort of lift is likely *not* that fun to soar in. It might take a seasoned sailplane pilot to exploit a feature such as this, I can imagine. The turbulence associated to the edge of such a feature is extreme.
Cold front moving through northern Utah
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-29 12:50:10
RUC Top of Usable Lift 09/29/2007 18 (UTC)
A nice observation of the top of usable lift and the wind speeds at that level. This was a violent frontal passage, producing the first measurable snow in norther Utah.
Thermal updraft forecasted well for Salt Lake City, UT
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-27 00:52:09
RUC Thermal Updraft Velocity 09/26/2007 21 (UTC)
The thermal updraft velocity was forecasted to be 400 to 500 feet per minute. Remember that this is the total updraft velocity. To arrive at the effective (net) velocity updraft, subtract the glider sink rate from this value. Typical gliders fly around 200-250 fpm down in still air depending on bank angle, performance, etc. So today, we experienced an average thermal updraft velocity of roughly 200 fpm. Near the surface (at launch levels) climb rates were as little as 10 to 50 fpm. I have the sunburn and a sore neck to prove it. :)
Olympus to the Point N Side, SLC, UT
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-27 00:46:03
RUC Top of Usable Lift 09/26/2007 21 (UTC)
Flew Mt. Olympus today. Launched at roughly 4pm, an hour after this forecast. Found the top of the usable lift to be roughly 8300 feet against the west facing slopes. The lift diminished rapidly after that. 2 local pilots made it the 15 miles to the point of the mountain state park after "scratching" for nearly two hours along the course. The forecast validated fairly well, but the actual lift experienced was on the weak side. The stabilizing effect of the Great Salt Lake with a north flow tends to invalidate the local soaring forecasts this time of the year.
Top of usable lift validated well for SLC, UT
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-26 10:00:04
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/25/2007 21 (UTC)
Flew Olympus on Sept 25, 2007. Found the top of the lift against the west slopes of the Wasatch to be 10,500 ft. This seemed to agree well for the 3pm forecast.
High Pressure region forecasted for eastern Colorado
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-20 20:25:49
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/21/2007 21 (UTC)
Note the wind direction/rotation for the top of the lift.
Sky Cloud Cover Example
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-18 23:41:55
GFS Sky Cloud Cover 09/17/2007 21 (UTC)
Notice that the dark green indicates 90% to 100% cloud cover. Cloud cover is anything cloud from the top of the atmosphere to the ground. Sometimes high clouds will give false warnings about the extensiveness and thickness of clouds. Look at the Sky Cloud Cover (without high) parameter to compare what influence high clouds are having for a region.
Cumulus Cloud Depth Example
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-18 21:25:13
GFS Cumulus Cloud Depth 09/17/2007 21 (UTC)
Looking at the Cumulus Cloud Depth parameter gives you an indication of just how deep clouds might develop for a given area. Where cloudbase is significantly lower than the absolute tops of the thermals, you might expect to see over-development of clouds in the area. Also note that this is simply the minimum cloud depth. Because the lapse rate changes once the air parcel is moist (dew point is reached) the actual cloud tops will likely be MUCH higher than is forecasted here.
Thermal Updraft Velocity Example
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-18 21:15:33
RUC Thermal Updraft Velocity 09/17/2007 21 (UTC)
Note that the thermal updraft velocity is forecasted to be between 600 and 800 feet per minute. Subtract the sink rate of your glider (somewhere around 250 fpm) to arrive at 350 to 550 fpm average thermal strengths for the area. This is an average of the general thermal velocity. There will likely be much stronger lift and of course much lighter lift in the area as well.
Cloubase captured well in GFS for Utah today
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Submitted by RMHPA
2007-09-18 17:36:53
GFS Cumulus Cloud Base Height 09/18/2007 21 (UTC)
The cumulus cloudbase parameter seems to have captured the locations and height of clouds fairly accurately today. The SLC valley in particular seems to have base quite close.
Looking at Top of Usable Lift and Wind Barbs
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-18 03:23:47
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/17/2007 21 (UTC)
Example
High probability of rain in central Utah
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-15 11:53:39
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/15/2007 21 (UTC)
The GFS model is so sure that it will rain, the Boundary Layer parameter has been modified to reflect this. At times, you will see 'holes' in the top of usable lift parameter. Forecasted precip is usually the cause.
Cumulus cloudbase and cloud depth captured well
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Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-14 20:12:42
GFS Cumulus Cloud Depth 09/14/2007 18 (UTC)
The GFS showed the cloudbase and minimum cloud depth to be very accurate today at noon.
GFS over estimates the top of lift for central California
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-13 20:05:26
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/13/2007 21 (UTC) Notice that the top of the usable lift from Sacramento to Bakersfield is predicted to be around 4,000 to 5,000 feet MSL. This is usually not the case for the low central valley. The reason this occurs is due to a poorly resolved Boundary Layer in the GFS model output. If the height of the boundary layer is too high, the top of the lift is commonly over estimated. A better forecast map would be the RUC model version. Avoid using the GFS when looking at this area.
GFS often overstates top of lift in the Salt Lake valley
Discussion on Observation
Submitted by Chris Galli
2007-09-13 19:26:22
GFS Top of Usable Lift 09/13/2007 21 (UTC) Both the GFS and RUC models overstated the top of lift today for the Salt Lake valley and surrounding area. It is likely that when this happens, the soaring forecast for the terrain to the east is still quite accurate, but the valleys tend to be much more inverted due to the Great Salt Lake. This is why on stable valley days, heading only several miles to the east can provide substantially better soaring conditions.